Well, Buddy and I went to check out the secret spot and got skunked. We both needed to buy farmers hats. We have great fishing stories about how we all most caught the big one. We were using Plastics with our secret set up. Pumkin Grub and Anchovy color Plastic. We got bit but no hook sets. When we did or thought we had a hook set it spit the hooks. By the way Seal Beach is nice in the early mornings. Opps its no longer a secret spot….:roll: